tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post2984662490082294320..comments2024-03-26T05:22:08.256-04:00Comments on Frontloading HQ: Unpledged Add-On DelegatesJosh Putnamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06301836432446874997noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-72987536057598667312008-05-09T12:09:00.000-04:002008-05-09T12:09:00.000-04:00Not to kick her while she is down is probably Obam...Not to kick her while she is down is probably Obama's best strategy. I have a feeling that Clinton herself or Karl Rove would be as tolerant.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379192575044761972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-78265465094437380702008-05-09T08:51:00.000-04:002008-05-09T08:51:00.000-04:00Here are those links from Rob:Desperate Clinton is...Here are those links from Rob:<BR/><A HREF="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/desperate_clinton_is_danger_to.html" REL="nofollow">Desperate Clinton is Danger to the Party</A><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/the_hillary_democrats.html" REL="nofollow">The Hillary Democrats</A><BR/><BR/><BR/>Don't kick someone while they're down? That's the only thing I can think of that could rationally explain it.<BR/><BR/>As I've said, she has earned the right to compete through the end of primary season. She may have lost the right to attack Obama at all costs with her performance on Tuesday, but she has enough delegates and votes nationwide to stay in. That's about all she has left, though.Josh Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06301836432446874997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-79673366522422131492008-05-09T08:32:00.000-04:002008-05-09T08:32:00.000-04:00The media is not putting much heat on as far as I ...The media is not putting much heat on as far as I can see. I only found one piece on the day's offerings that takes her to task<BR/><BR/>http://www.realclearpolitics.com<BR/>/articles/2008/05/desperate<BR/>_clinton_is_danger_to.html<BR/><BR/>and she is getting support from some unlikely quarters<BR/><BR/>http://www.realclearpolitics.com<BR/>/articles/2008/05/the_hillary<BR/>_democrats.html<BR/><BR/>Al Sharpton is calling on her to get out, but I don't see anything yet from Charley Rangle or other Clinton loyalists in the African- American community. Very strange.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379192575044761972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-69549924546662788822008-05-08T12:47:00.000-04:002008-05-08T12:47:00.000-04:00If the media keeps playing it up, it could very we...If the media keeps playing it up, it could very well be the end for her. Those comments have not been received well. Overly sensitive or not, I think you were right on, Rob. <BR/><BR/>How many feet in the mouth do the Clintons need on this issue before they zip it for good? As the commercial for Tootsie Pops (when referring to how many licks it took to get to the center) used to say, "The world may never know."Josh Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06301836432446874997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-85484205395287898562008-05-08T12:42:00.000-04:002008-05-08T12:42:00.000-04:00Here's that link.<A HTTP://POLITICALTICKER.BLOGS.CNN.COM/2008/05/08/CLINTON-TOUTS-SUPPORT-FROM-WHITE-AMERICANS/#COMMENTS HREF="" REL="nofollow">Here's that link.</A>Josh Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06301836432446874997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-251492074213749152008-05-08T12:25:00.000-04:002008-05-08T12:25:00.000-04:00Did you see the USA Today comments? They are cited...Did you see the USA Today comments? They are cited by CNN. <BR/><BR/>http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com<BR/>/2008/05/08/clinton-touts-support<BR/>-from-white-americans/#comments<BR/><BR/>I think her statement could finish her as a credible candidate for anything, even in New York.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379192575044761972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-48660778367701853002008-05-08T10:30:00.000-04:002008-05-08T10:30:00.000-04:00I admit to being overly sensitive, but I don't thi...I admit to being overly sensitive, but I don't think she realizes how deeply she and Bill have alienated the African-American community. I think there will be a price paid for those elected professionals who supported her, particularly African-Americans. I agree that it will not hurt her in the short term, but she will have fences to mend before her next Senate race or the one for Governor. Look for an up-and-coming African American, perhaps a woman, to challenge her in the primary. I still believe that if the two of them had handled SC better, she would be capturing 25-30% of the African-American vote and would be the candidate Obama was trying to catch if not the presumptive nominee.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379192575044761972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-47764240167934488492008-05-08T09:11:00.000-04:002008-05-08T09:11:00.000-04:00I don't know Rob. I listened to her comments and ...I don't know Rob. I listened to her comments and didn't really take it that way. She <I>did</I> stress the importance of African Americans to the Democratic Party. <BR/><BR/>I can see where that could be interpreted as elitist and this subject is one that we've spoken about extensively in the discussion group. Is she taking them for granted? I'm sure it may be portrayed that way. <BR/><BR/>The flip side is that she is acknowledging the political acumen of African American voters and the reality of the political environment. Both she and African American voters know that too much is on the line in this election for a majority of that group to stay home in November. Now, would they turn out in as high a proportion as they would if Obama was the nominee? No, but I doubt we would see a huge drop off. African Americans just don't have an alternative to turn to.<BR/><BR/>Plus, she probably won't win the nomination and their aren't that many African American voters in the remaining states. So that won't hurt her in the short term. <BR/><BR/>Long term? It just fits in with the sullied image the Clintons have inadvertently cultivated among the black community during this cycle. We are talking about someone who was called the first black president. It is amazing that his wife is now performing at Republican levels among African American voters in these contests. My, how the mighty have fallen.Josh Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06301836432446874997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-10468117679394479642008-05-08T08:54:00.000-04:002008-05-08T08:54:00.000-04:00Here's the link to the NPR story Rob referenced ab...<A HREF="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90268409" REL="nofollow">Here's the link to the NPR story Rob referenced above.</A>Josh Putnamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06301836432446874997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-56688363082467377082008-05-08T08:03:00.000-04:002008-05-08T08:03:00.000-04:00I heard a Clinton clip on NPR this morning. She wa...I heard a Clinton clip on NPR this morning. She was making the point that she was better at getting working-class votes than Obama. When asked about single-digit results with African Americans, she indicated that they would always vote Democrat. That seems to be fairly elitist to me, you insult them (or at least get your husband to) and then take them for granted. Talk about getting thrown under the bus. Where is Charley Rangel in all of this?Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379192575044761972noreply@blogger.com