tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post6637254111519506235..comments2024-03-26T05:22:08.256-04:00Comments on Frontloading HQ: Obama-BidenJosh Putnamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06301836432446874997noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-43958919432343990462008-08-24T17:15:00.000-04:002008-08-24T17:15:00.000-04:00As I've said on 538, to effect real change, you ha...As I've said on 538, to effect real change, you have to win first. Obama has to be somewhat pragmatic in order to get elected.<BR/><BR/>And I would argue Biden, while he's spent much time as a senator, still represents change from Bush's policies in just about every way, but especially in his rational, intelligent approach to foreign policy. He's an insider, yes, but not a bad one. And his experience as an insider will help the already politcally savvy Obama get more done as president.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04365194237710177589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-77716604902373226102008-08-24T16:26:00.000-04:002008-08-24T16:26:00.000-04:00I must admit, even though I raised my hand for Bid...I must admit, even though I raised my hand for Biden in class Friday, I'm a little disappointed that Obama picked a senator who has served for 35 years when he has been touting "change" throughout his campaign. Age and years in the biz, collectively referred to as "experience," do not always yield brilliant decisions. I'm still an Obama girl, I just wish he would have stuck to his guns and picked another fresh face, preferably one with executive experience.Rubia en Españahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03430429589906799885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-20112206644686983302008-08-23T19:23:00.000-04:002008-08-23T19:23:00.000-04:00I agree, Jack.Biden and McCain may not be best bud...I agree, Jack.<BR/><BR/>Biden and McCain may not be best buddies, but they have been in the Senate together for over two decades. That gives Biden the ability to play not only attack dog but legitimately knowledgeable attack dog. It is one thing to say, "Well, that's a VP nominee, he's just attacking the other." But it is another thing altogether when you can add in that history in the Senate.<BR/><BR/>The speech Wednesday night will be must-watch. Well, I would have been watching regardless.<BR/><BR/>Back in a while with the August (so far) shifts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-38517380007809450452008-08-23T15:47:00.000-04:002008-08-23T15:47:00.000-04:00Just finished watching the event in Springfield, a...Just finished watching the event in Springfield, and now I'm even happier with Biden. Thought he took a little while to really get going, but when he did, he did a very effective job of attacking McCain while portraying (with help from Obama's excellent speech) the ticket as one that could identify with most Americans.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04365194237710177589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-1230442086693707092008-08-23T15:30:00.000-04:002008-08-23T15:30:00.000-04:00You know, I hadn't even thought about the 3am link...You know, I hadn't even thought about the 3am link to that ad. And now that I do, I don't really take it in a negative way. <BR/><BR/>My initial thought, and one that I'm sticking with, is that this was intended not as a 3am roll out but as a midnight (Pacific) rollout. Look, the text message think was one that targeted only a select (youthful) group. So it began a buzz on the West Coast and ensured that, along with this Springfield event today, this story would dominate the news from the start this morning. Oh sure, you could argue that it would have dominated anyway, but you start some buzz this way and have a large group of people eager to check the situation first thing in the morning this way. Yes, I was disappointed that I missed, but it was the first thing I heard this morning when I put NPR on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-61174690537351921112008-08-23T14:46:00.000-04:002008-08-23T14:46:00.000-04:00Jack,Thanks. I'm embarrassed that I did not think ...Jack,<BR/><BR/>Thanks. I'm embarrassed that I did not think of that ticket.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379192575044761972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-70519937268631211152008-08-23T14:31:00.000-04:002008-08-23T14:31:00.000-04:00Robert, just did some research, and the last ticke...Robert, just did some research, and the last ticket with two sitting senators (not counting the ill-fated McGovern-Eagleton ticket in 1972) was Kennedy-Johnson in 1960.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04365194237710177589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-44144961766364566302008-08-23T14:08:00.000-04:002008-08-23T14:08:00.000-04:00I see the Republicans are using Biden's comments a...I see the Republicans are using Biden's comments about Obama against the ticket. The Democrats will have lots of two-way material to use on a McCain-Romney ticket!Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379192575044761972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-89048225511721797272008-08-23T12:37:00.000-04:002008-08-23T12:37:00.000-04:00Interesting pick. With this matchup, we will elect...Interesting pick. With this matchup, we will elect a sitting Senator as President for the first time since 1960. I can't recall any ticket with two sitting Senators, although Kerry-Edwards was close. I suspect that the Republicans will make a big deal about no executive experience on the ticket, particularly if McCain selects a current or former Governor.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379192575044761972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-20895091628053003492008-08-23T11:10:00.000-04:002008-08-23T11:10:00.000-04:00I don't understand the middle of the night choice ...I don't understand the middle of the night choice either. But Biden is a great choice. As he's from Scranton, he'll help with working class voters and in Northeast Pennsylvania. He'll help a little with Catholics, and with seniors. He can attack with the best of them, and I would like to think that in this situation, now that he's the nominee, he'd be reasonably disciplined without losing his bite.<BR/><BR/>I don't know if it's that he doesn't have the ambition to be president as much as he's probably realized it's not going to happen. He didn't get anywhere this year, in a race dominated by Clinton and Obama (and to a lesser extent, John Edwards), but he wasn't even able to rise far above Richardson and Kucinich. That doesn't mean he wouldn't run if 2012 if Obama loses. Being on the ticket won't hurt his chances at eventually becoming president; those chances are just not good right now.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04365194237710177589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6719252574677567989.post-11927200716431625242008-08-23T10:32:00.000-04:002008-08-23T10:32:00.000-04:00I'm still intrigued by the whole text message thin...I'm still intrigued by the whole text message thing.<BR/><BR/>Was it going to be in the middle of the night all along? In retrospect, maybe it had to be: the text messages ended up spread over several hours, as far as I can tell. The picture I had of everyone's cell phones going off at once was technologically impossible.<BR/><BR/>Was 3 am the target, as in the 3 am phone call? If so, that's rubbing Clinton supporters noses in it too much. It reminds me of the White House staff in 2001 removing the W's from the keyboards before they left.<BR/><BR/>Or did the Obama campaign get forced into releasing earlier than they intended when the leaks started coming out?<BR/><BR/>And was this ever really about a dramatic release, or was it about getting more contact information?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14690577323454357276noreply@blogger.com